Stinking Thoughts on Fish Mtg.
The GMFMC &Council; South Atlantic Fishery Management Council Playing with Unknown Allotments and data from, well it was never brought up, conveniently or your stinking thoughts on fish management, coupled with your new tool of U.N. rule are once again playing with your future and your children children's future, too! Smells of another red herring in this room, PEW, do you smell it too?
So all you anglers out there, what do you all think of the new proposed rules set up to be deliberated on next year through NOAA, the EDF, the Gulf of Mexico Fisheries Management Council to our own FWC on changing the bag limits on Pompano and Permit to TWO fish and they purpose to push this through and extend into Federal waters so as Commercial anglers of the Guide type are also only allowed TWO per boat, regardless of how many have chartered your boat. Also one is allowed over the 20 inch limit but is counted in the two per person if onshore from the land or pier and two per boat. On the Commercial side, Permit and Pompano would be closed permanently with a 100 bycatch limit if you have the correct permits.
“Their is no scientific reasoning or data to support this measure, with the exception of a recreational report that was 1/3 complete in 2008 and an ACL report from 2006 on commercial grouper, where out of 800 or so boats representing the Florida fleet, only half were surveyed and the rest they just threw in some approximate numbers but they have to start somewhere, so here is where it will be implemented, Florida. You have to remember, usually when a Federal entity makes a suggestion or regulation under the rouge of the Mag-Steven Act, the FWC follows along like a whimpering dog; all bark, no bite! “
On the spearing issue, none allowed unless it is over 20 inches at a two fish limit only and only in Federal waters. Same goes for African Pompano except it has to be the 24 inch nominal length requirement and no spear fishing for it period!
“I do not understand the spear fishing thingy? What is a hook? It is a bent spear! So what is the problem here?”
Why cannot the best State in the Nation, if not the world, Florida, with the FWC, manage on its own fish? It has done a pretty good job thus far. It has a record to stand by. NOAA, the EDF and the Gulf of Mexico Fisheries Management Council have no such record so why are they key players? NOAA is about weather, is it not? Looks like they were loosing funding and had to go to bed with the fishes, in order to find more dollars.
Can you spell conservation; Politics, that is right and it has nothing to do with fish, conservation; just money. If NOAA did not come up with the right numbers and a solution to better conservation methods by the end of 2010, they lost their funding with in the fisheries departments and like all good Americans, they had been procrastinating, as we all do, and suddenly a deadline was fast approaching. To this, we fell back on an Act that was not meant to do what, they suggested be done with it. Kind of like putting a square into a round hole; it will fit, minus a couple of pieces, after it is hammered into the hole. They hammered it in and the funds continued because something was getting done; even if it was wrong and costing Americans there jobs!
Conservation is preservation of a species from trees to fleas and fish in-between. FWC, Florida Wildlife Conservation Commission with CONSERVATION being the key word. Conservation smells good, PEW is usually associated with the stench of something gone bad and bad is what is happening between catch shares, sector separation and stock assessments as to who what when and where for the almighty dollar.
Did you know at the last meeting with PEW and NOAA, the EDF, the Gulf of Mexico Fisheries Management Council and a slew of other alphabet’s that designating certain saltwater fish as GAME FISH was also discussed where once established it was catch and release for its lifetime! The other item which may come up, as it did recently, is the forming of rules pertaining to Florida's “Generic” fish, also. Ever caught one of those? For now the “Board” has not anything to really say on the subject but it was brought up on their agenda! On top of this, from the previous meeting, they explained catch shares with a slip, I believe because we know now what really is on their minds; money, not the savings of fish but the cling, cling of money in the coffers. Of course we know this but it was confirmed with as much said, paraphrased of course, you can listen to the tape, once all the catch shares are in place, 83% of all shares combined will share equally in the catch. Did you hear that? “Share equally,” sounds as like a Marxist Society to me and where does the other 17% go? Only commercial fisherman would be allowed to purchase these share to start the program but after 5 years, the catch shares program would go public and anyone could own a piece of the ocean and all the creatures in it; did someone say Tyson Foods & the Walton Family?
Now we are going backwards with the CLEAR ACT as the Consolidated Land, Energy, Aquatic Restoration Act (CLEAR Act) HR3534 looks very good when you first start reading it. It talks of stopping offshore oil drilling and a $2.00 a barrel fee for every barrel of oil produced in the USA to go to conservation. It turns our federal waters over to the United Nations to control. That means the 3-mile state waters, demarcation line on the Atlantic coast and the 9-mile state line on the gulf coast is all the water we will control as an America. This is because President Obama signed and ratified the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (also known as the Law of the Sea Treaty, or LOST). This gives the United Nations control and jurisdiction over the world's oceans, nearly three-quarters of the surface of our planet. The Law of the Sea Treaty now jeopardizes all Americans to the rules and jurisdiction of UN bodies and the incessant harassment of lawsuits by foreign nations and activist non-governmental organizations, such as those who are now controlling our fish. This Convention is widely recognized by the international community as the legal framework within, which all activities in the oceans and the seas must be carried out. The Convention now overrides domestic laws covering not only coastal waters and shorelines, but also human activities in rivers and inland waterways, and land-based activities that may be claimed — no matter how far-fetched — to be harming the marine environment. We can see this as of two days ago in Washington State, farmers, under the LOST convention must give up 500 feet of all their lands on either side of any rivers or streams to which may run into the sea, to non-farming measures, as manure to pesticides or fertilizers may come in contact with and are now prohibited. This 500 foot rule is for all people, anywhere in the United States. The Farmers Association of Washington & Texas have filed Federal suit and the farmers, in the mean time, like the anglers up and down the coastlines of America, are going out of business. Moreover, LOST may confer upon the UN, for the first time, the ability to tax Americans directly, without congressional approval. Never heard that before did you?
"LOST's scope is vast: it covers all ocean space, with all its uses, including navigation and overflight; all uses of its resources, living and non-living, on the high seas, on the ocean floor and beneath, on the continental shelf and in the territorial seas.... The Convention is widely recognized by the international community as the legal framework within which all activities in the oceans and the seas must be carried out." If you read the quote carefully, you'll see that the UN Division for Ocean Affairs and the Law of the Sea which administers LOST would have authority over everything, everything, over, on, and under the oceans and seas of the world. Ratification of LOST is the first step toward world government.
Then we have sector separation and catch shares and the implementation of again what we can catch bases in assessments and allocations based by number crunching and models from years gone by but not from today. IFQ's backed by the PEW Foundation in its statement to one of the Gulf Council boards that our fish are overly and heavily over-fished according to the latest models. What have they to do with fishing?
Also the models do not take in account for the red tide years and dead zones from the phosphate dumping in the Gulf years ago. In fact, when I put in a public records request to the Council, the latest model and report was dated 2006, and though being uncompleted, the numbers on grouper were just fine, until some numbers cruncher put a formula together to come up with the answer that the sky is falling and to stop this measure, all grouper fishing must stop now. Driving up the price and buying from overseas may still put fish on the tables at your favorite restaurant but it sure as water is wet, it too puts the American Fisherman out of business and with that comes trickle down economics; to which has not been accounted for! I thought an economic feasibility study had to be projected and implemented before these unconstitutional to against the law rules could be put into place anyway. The red tide was in 2005, and they believe it was over-fished, how dumb is that? I think Jane Lubchenko and her mob rule Must Go. Preaching to teaching the world is flat may have worked a couple of hundred years ago but not today, as some of us can still use our minds and see the carnage to which NOAA, the EDF, PEW and a slew of others in the stinking pot of alphabet soup smells; of a Red Herring! I know who is not getting my vote in the upcoming 2011 & 2012 elections. I wonder how many I can persuade to come out of the shadows and into the light?
THE COUNCIL MEETINGS
http://myfwc.com/audio/Commission/2010/12-Dec/2010_Dec_08.mp3 1:06:20 (30.3 MB)Fishery Management Council Updates: Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council; South Atlantic Fishery Management Council
2:25:27 (66.5 MB)Final Rules for Individual Fishing Quotas for Gulf Grouper and Tile-fish and Commercial Harvest Requirements; Licenses, Season Closures, Bag and Trip Limits. Draft Rules for Permit, Florida pompano and African pompano http://myfwc.com/audio/Commission/2010/12-Dec/2010_Dec_09.mp3
Broward Co. Manatee Rules; Report on Wounded Warrior Event; Discussion on Game Fish Designation concept; Green Iguana Risk Assessment; Div. of Marine Fisheries Management work plan; Public Comment; Administrative Matters; Commissioners' Exchange http://myfwc.com/audio/Commission/2010/12-Dec/2010_Dec_10.mp3
Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council
Reef Fish Limited Access Privilege Program Advisory Panel
Gulf Council Office
2203 N. Lois Avenue, Tampa, FL 33607
Tuesday, Jan. 25, 2011
I- Adoption of Agenda – (Bortone)
II- NOAA’s Catch Share Policy – (Strelcheck)
III- IFQ Financing under the Fisheries Finance Program - (Diagne)
IV- Comprehensive LAPP Program for the Commercial Sector - (Krebs)
V- Next Steps for the LAPP AP – (Morris)
VI- Other Business – (Bortone)
BYOB or any other party favors you too wish to provide while observing to participating in this Three Ring Circus!
And it is now all based upon
NOT ME, I'M AN AMERICAN!
Do you believe in the Declaration of Independence assertion to wit, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.” If so, how does this agree with the current federal introduction of placing faith in one man or one group of unelected officials in charge of Public Waterways, fishing grounds and the right to dissolve jobs in such fishery on the grounds of flawed to no data at all, when promises of new jobs are of the Presidents tongue? Not one member of Obama’s “neon green radicals” was elected by the people. Where is the government of and by the people? Do you really believe This Goal is to conserve Our fishing rights? They are attempting to ride to victory with the four horsemen of calumny Fear, ignorance,bigotry and Smear, to which my sights are set to a higher authority; my Rights as an American, to which let no man put it under! Gary A. Anderson
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